Saturday, 23 October 2010

Featuring Bailliegillies- Not a Real Lapdog

Here are some pastes from a recent Guardian article's comment section, "Comment is free," featuring a certain Bailliegillies. He is doubtless someone Steve Jobs would describe as "not a real journalist," but how it comes that someone like Bailliegillies is relegated to an anonymous comments page while scores of humdrum professionals get paid for endlessly regurgitating their pro-Israel bilge is one of the scandals of the age. Anyway, comment is free - and sometimes priceless, too.


bailliegillies

21 October 2010 3:20PM

@Sipech

But if it's the Iranians, then it would be foolish to claim they weren't provoked.

Except they won't as the Iranians are playing chess while the Americans are playing poker and hoping that by calling bluff the Iranians will fold.

Chess is a game of long term strategy, Poker is a game of chance (fall of cards) and bluff.


bailliegillies

22 October 2010 2:21PM

@venerablejohn

I think any attack by israel on Iran would take the form of airstrikes in order to destroy any nuclear program, they would then wait for any retaliation from Hezbuliran. I remember in a press conference an Israeli general was asked how far they were willing to go to stop Iran equiring nuclear weapons?
"about 500 miles" was the answer.

It may be prepared to go that five hundred miles but how many men is it prepared ro commit and for how long, leaving Israel itself open to attack.

Israel might have the ego but I don't think it has either the men or the means for carrying out a long term war of aggression against Iran. At best Israel can carry out a number of attacks against known sites but to get to the others it will need men on the ground occupying the country and I don't think the IDF is capable of occupying Iran. To defeat Iran Israel will need the full commitment of the US army, navy and air force directed against Iran and as America has too many other commitments around the world that is unlikely. America may once again call on their faithful poodle and reluctant allies in Europe but I don't think the public will tolerate any more imperial adventures for either America or Israel.

I suspect that the moment Israel launches an attack on Iran, it will retaliate with a massive strike against Israel with as many of it's medium range missiles as it can as well as closing the Gulf of Hormuz to all shipping.

Air strikes never worked against the British, the Germans, the Vietnamese, Laos or anyone else, so why do you suddenly think that it would work against the Iranians when all the evidence shows that it only hardens the resolve to resist and defend.

bailliegillies

22 October 2010 3:32PM

@pxr5

''the zionist regime occupying jerusalem must be wiped from the pages of history''

I appreciate that English is neither your first, possibly your second or third language but if you understood English properly you would see that it reads:

The ZIONIST REGIME. That's the government of Israel, not Israel.


OCCUPYING JERUSALEM. Presently occupying Jerusalem and not Israel.

WILL BE WIPED. That's expunged, or removed.

FROM THE PAGES OF HISTORY. That means removed from the history books. Or that they will become a historic irrelevance

At no point did he mention Israel, wiping Israel from the map.

bailliegillies

21 October 2010 3:48PM

@peitha

Ah, the same assumptions that Saddam Hussein made when he wanted people to believe he might have WMD on the assumption that he could thereby prevent anyone from invading ... look how well that turned out for him (and everybody else)!

Except that Iran is a bigger, more populace country rich in resources and a growing industrial base. It has large well trained and equipped armed forces that are widely dispersed and one arm specifically trained in guerrilla warfare. Forget the Mullahs if Iran is attacked the the generals will be taking over the running of the war and making the decisions.

Mind you if the Iranians agreed to hand over all their oil reserves to the Americans and agree to installing their man on the Peacock Throne I'm sure that everything will work out just fine.

bailliegillies

21 October 2010 4:58PM

@pxr5

I think Iran is a piss poor little tyranny with a big imagination and an even bigger mouth.

So was Afghanistan and Iraq but we paid a high price for our arrogance and still are in Afghanistan.

But they must know of the national suicide of sparking a confrontation with the US NATO Israel and the Sunni Arab countries...

Problem is it's not the Iranians who are shouting the odds and willy waving their egos at all and sundry. The Mullahs might be religious bigots but they aren't fools and it's unlikely that Ahmadinejad has the kind of power you assume he has, it's also unlikely that th Mullahs are intent on committing national suicide.

It's cost the west and the coalition of fools a very high price following the Americans into their wars of choice and it's unlikely that another with Iran will be any different.

bailliegillies

22 October 2010 1:07PM

I've said this before and will say it again. Those of you who are wishing for war be careful be very careful what you wish for because you might just get it but not the war you want.

War never ever goes as you plan or anticipate, no one walks away unscathed or undamaged. Iran is a far larger country than Israel and can absorb far more punishment. Israel can and probably will use nuclear weapons but Iran is unlikely too against Israel as it would not just be Israel that suffers but also Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt and all countries around Israel and the Eastern Mediterranean. Like America Israel relies on modern technology to fight it's wars so needs a constant supply of high tech materials and gold, Iran doesn't and like Afghanistan can fight for longer and cheaper and accept far higher casualties than Israel can. Israel's whole military strategy is based on fast strike, followed by withdrawal leaving the enemy confused and incapacitated. This is unlikely to happen, let alone work in Iran.

Can Israel afford the price of total war on that scale, especially one that will drag on for uyears and pull in many other nations and enlarge the conflict, leading to greater hatred of Israel?

So armchair commandos think about it before you wish for it, you might just get it but not what you wished for.

bailliegillies

22 October 2010 1:37PM

@pxr5

It depends in your armchair scenario are you expecting IOsrael to land trooop in Iran or would Iran visit Israel through Syria and Gaza and Lebanon ( like the Lebanese can stop 'em)

Well you are the one wearing the famed Yellow Beret, you tell me?

If Israel decides that it is going to attack Iran exactly how is it going to back it up, because once it launches and attack it is going to have to keep up a high level of aggression over a long period to guarantee that Iran ceases to be a threat. It will also need to put boots on the ground as it isn't the Lebanon and is more than capable of defending itself against aggression from a small country like Israel.

On the other hand Iran doesn't have to invade Israel and give the Israelis the excuse they need to resort to nuclear weapons. All the Iranians need to do is close the Gulf of Hormuz to tankers and the west, including Israel is well and truly screwed.

Iran isn't a small defenceless country like The Lebanon, it has the means to strike back with conventional weapons, medium range missiles that are more than capable of reaching Israel and inflicting heavy casualties. but it isn't the casualties or the damage they do that will hurt Israel but the flow of Israelis out of the country once they realise that they are no longer safe. It is very likely that a war with Iran will trigger large scale migration from Israel.

pxr5

22 October 2010 1:41PM

bailliegillies


famed yellow beret?

explain please

Looks like you got it all worked out. So that's it then.


Just one more thing though, try not to lose those fiddely little plastic soldiers down the side of your armchair, they'll get stuck with your pizza crumbs and be murder to find.

bailliegillies

22 October 2010 1:56PM

The Ballad of the Yellow Beret
(to the tune of "The Ballad of the Green Berets")

We are tough, young Republicans
We fight with words (but never guns)
We show support by drinking beer.
But since we’re rich we’ll stay right here.

(chorus)
Chicken wings suit me just fine
They go so well with my yellow spine
I’ll ply my trade while you’re overseas
When you return, your job will speak Chinese

I’m like my grandpop and my dad,
Those terrorist bastards make me mad;
But I’m a Stanford B-school grad;
So I’ll not be going to Baghdad

(Chorus)
Chicken wings suit me just fine
They go so well with my yellow spine
The poor man’s born to join the fray
I was born rich, I’ll get an MBA

I just can’t share the poor man’s fate
Cause at the Frat House hot babes wait
Just like Dubya I get “C’s”,
And like Dick, I got “Priorities”

(Chorus)
Chicken wings suit me just fine
They go so well with my yellow spine,
Though we strut like cocks in our “Old School” halls
We’re really hens, we’re lacking balls.

1 comment:

GJ Tryon said...

It's worth comparing Bailliegillies' version with the more
familiar Bob Seger song of the same title. Seger's "protest against the protesters" reads like typical Republican populist bilge. Doubtless the above verses were fashioned as a piquant protest against the protest against the protesters.